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Tsiyon Messianic Radio Newsletter Vol 5.24 - 3/28/6010 TAM - 6/11/2010

 

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Listener Q + A

Listener Comment - CD Samples?
I would like to hear a little of the songs on CD Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.  Would you mind posting bits of the songs on this CD?

Tsiyon Answer - CD Samples?
Great idea! We now have samples linked for download for each song [here]. I hope you enjoy them!

Listener Comment - Gamma Ray Burst Dates?
About your message of the Gamma ray bursts [Mazzaroth Signs 2008 #227], did you happen to notice the numbers of the dates? 3/19 and 9/13 !!! Do they look similar to you?  Perhaps the transposed numbers confirm your observations are linked, as you say they are "2 witnesses."

Tsiyon Answer - Gamma Ray Burst Dates?
I hadn't noticed the transposed date linkage. that is very interesting. Thanks for bringing your observation to my attention.

Listener Comment - Fellowship Concerns?
Recently my family and I started fellowshipping at a Messianic congregation. I felt the children need something more tangible than our home fellowship. I felt they would need to identify with other people who know there is a “deeper” understanding to Christianity (lack of a better phrase), to mature and be secure in our faith. I wanted them to identify with people who love the House of Israel, Judah and the Torah. As you may or may not know Messianic groups follow many rabbinical teachings (which personally doesn’t bother me). The doctrines which I disagree with, I go over with them at home and explain our differences. We come from a Sacred Name background and experienced the heated disputes over doctrine, the divisions and factions; quite frankly we’re tired of it. We just want to be part of a group and be a blessing (support the sick, pray for those who need healing etc…). My question is am I being deceptive by not explaining my viewpoints and/or should I be open and disclose them?

Tsiyon Answer - Gamma Ray Burst Dates?
Brother, you are wanting good things, to bless others. You are not being deceptive by simply not saying everything you are thinking. Your thoughts are your own and you have a right to share them or not. However, my guess is that eventually you will get tired of holding back. At that point you will either stop attending or will feel forced to speak up about some vital issue, and may then be ostracized as a result. Reason: it is not real fellowship when we cannot be ourselves with others and be accepted for who we really are. However it turns out, I wish you and your family all the best.

Listener Comment - ..ignorant of dispensational considerations?
When I first heard one of your earlier messages on Messianic Radio more than a year ago, I was more than impressed with your research and insights. I know of no other people that are so prodigious in their ministry than you. However, I soon discovered that you are ignorant of major dispensational considerations of the Bible and were therefore not proclaiming the appropriate message for today which God gave to the Body of Christ. Let me explain briefly as far as my best English will allow, as you should not be ignorant of any of the details. [A lengthy and well-written summary of dispensational theology followed, too long to include in this Newsletter.]

Tsiyon Answer - ..ignorant of dispensational considerations?
Thank you for writing to us to share your concerns. You have done a good job here of outlining the dispensational paradigm, according to which Israel is thought to be "rejected" and then replaced by "the Church" during "the Age of Grace" after which "the Church" is thought to be "raptured" away and Israel is then thought to be restored to God's favor during the Tribulation period.

Be assured that I am not ignorant of the teachings of the dispensational paradigm. Actually, I have fully studied the dispensational paradigm for decades and have carefully compared its component parts to Scripture. Having done that, I have been forced by Scripture to reject the dispensational paradigm because I have found it does not conform to either Scripture or the nature of God. Here are a few points from Scripture that will illustrate what I mean.

The peg on which the whole dispensational system is hung is the alleged rejection of Israel by YHWH. Indeed, if Israel has not been cast off then there is no room for a separate Gentile body ("the Church") to take their place. On this basis the dispensational paradigm fails before it even gets off the ground!

For Israel to be cast off the Word says the sun and moon would have to cease. That hasn't happened.

That's what this passage clearly says:

Thus says YHWH, Who gives the sun for light by day And the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night, Who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar; YHWH of hosts is His name: "If this fixed order departs From before Me," declares YHWH, "Then the offspring of Israel also will cease From being a nation before Me forever." Thus says YHWH, "If the heavens above can be measured And the foundations of the earth searched out below, Then I will also cast off all the offspring of Israel For all that they have done," declares YHWH. Jer 31:35-37

These verses make it clear that YHWH has not caste off Israel.

Paul says the same:

God has not rejected His people whom He foreknew. Rom 11:2

Further, Paul tells us, that while UNBELIEVERS of Israel were rejected, a REMNANT of Israel continued on in the covenant and promises of YHWH.

...there has also come to be at the present time a REMNANT (of Israel) according to God's gracious choice. Rom 11:5

The point here is that unbelievers among Israel were cast off but the REMNANT of Israel, as Israel, continued on. This actual remnant of Israel is, in fact, THE REAL MEANING of "the Church."

What then of the Gentile believers?

They must be "grafted-in" to the Israelite "olive-tree" i.e. into the remnant of Israel, to be part of Israel.

But if some of the branches were broken off [SOME not all, being the unbelieving Israelites], and you, being a wild olive (a Gentile), were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree [Israel], do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the root, but the root supports you. Rom 11:17-18

To be grafted in means to become a part. The "olive tree" is Israel - believing Israel. Believing Israel is the real meaning of "Church" in Scripture. This is the biblical church to which all believers must be joined - Israel.

Here's more.

For the dispensational paradigm to be correct then the New Covenant must be made with "the Church."

If "the Church" is a Gentile body apart from Israel then there is no verse in which the New Covenant is made with the Church.

However, the New Covenant is made with Israel!

"Behold, days are coming," declares YHWH, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah.. Jer 31:31

If "the Church" is Israel there is no problem here. If it is a body which has replaced Israel, then you are not in the New Covenant, because the New Covenant is made with Israel.

These are just a few point showing the defects in the dispensational paradigm. There are many more. Our Tsiyon website contains many programs explaining the truth about this, starting from the very first programs. It is your choice, of course, if you don't want to consider these facts, but know this, the dispensational paradigm is not true, so, in the end, it will disappoint everyone who clings to it. We are presenting the alternate paradigm, which will require spiritual work and effort to understand, but which is well worth the effort. We invite you to return and consider these facts with us at any time.

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