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Tsiyon Messianic Radio Newsletter Vol 5.08 - 12/05/6009 TAM - 02/19/2010


Hebraic Soup to Nuts

Eliyahu has been a guest several times recently on the Torah 2 The Nations radio program, talking on everything from Hebraic soup to nuts! Why Hebrew Roots? What about the pre-trib rapture? Who are the remnant of Israel and what role do they play in the end times? The New World Order? Here we put together a single Tsiyon program with a varied array of topics from these appearances.

Hebraic Soup to Nuts


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Listener Comment - ..Is the Star in the Messianic Seal Pagan?
Why do you use the star as a symbol for your site? Isn't that a pagan symbol? I have seen it in pictures of Muslim mosques and other forms of customs I have found through the internet, also in Amos
5:25: "You also carried along Sikkuth your king and Kiyyun, your images, the star of your gods which you made for yourselves." The star doesn't seem like a good symbol for Messianic followers. The Menorah and cross yes. The throne of Yah and our paid ransom. Thanks again.

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Tsiyon Answer - - ..Is the Star in the Messianic Seal Pagan?
We use the Messianic Seal as a symbol because it was created by and used as the 'logo' of the first Messianic believers in Tsiyon / Zion including James the Brother of Y'shua and the twelve apostles. That may sound fantastic, but there are significant artifacts that prove it. More information with pictures can be found here.

Listener Comment, Continued - What are they talking about here in Amos? "You also carried along Sikkuth your king and Kiyyun, your images, the star of your gods which you made for yourselves." Trying to be a good Berean and understand. Thanks for your time.

Tsiyon Answer - - ..Is the Star in the Messianic Seal Pagan?

This is from Gill's commentary:

And Chiun, your images; Mo or Siccuth was one, and Chiun another image, or rather the same; and this the same with Chevan, which in the Arabic and Persic languages is the name of Saturn, as Aben Ezra and Kimchi say; and is so rendered by Montanus here; and who in the Egyptian tongue was called Revan, or Rephan, or Remphan; as by the Septuagint here, and in Act_7:43; the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves; or the star "your god" (q); meaning the same with Chiun or Saturn; perhaps the same with the star that fell from the air or sky, mentioned by Sanchoniatho (r); which Astarte, the wife of Chronus or Saturn, is said to take and consecrate in Tyre; this they made for themselves, and worshipped as a deity. The Targum is, "ye have borne the tabernacle of your priests, Chiun your image, the star your God, which ye have made to yourselves.''

The "star" mentioned is here stated to be the planet Saturn. This is not the Star of David which is something else entirely, as explained at the link I sent you. I hope you find this helpful.

Thoughts from Eliyahu ben David:

Don and Jamie from the Torah 2 the Nations radio show have had me on as a guest several times now. Each time has been interesting with some controversial and unexpected moments. I figured I had better get a program put together with special segments from these guest appearances so that my regular listeners won't miss out on this. By the way, these visits were not announced ahead of time because Don and Jamie keep it fresh and don't always give a lot of warning. I can relate to that because things happen fast in my world too, so we tend to get a long and have a lot of fun on these programs - and cover a lot of territory. I'm hoping that you will get a question or two answered that you may have been wondering about here. Also, this might be good to share with folks new to the Hebrew Roots world. Enjoy the program and let me know what you think!

Blessings and Shalom,

Eliyahu ben David

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