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Listener Q + A

Listener Comment - Were humans taller before the Flood
My question is in reference to lesson #258- Evidence of the Antediluvian World. In that teaching I heard a scientist say that they had managed to make a biosphere to control the atmospheric conditions of a small area. He then stated that they placed piranha inside this controlled atmosphere and that they grew substantially larger than what is standard for that piranha. From what I gathered from what they said, they had (for lack of a better term) created an atmosphere that resembled what the pre-flood era would have been like. If what their tests says is true then one can only assume that most everything was larger than what we are accustomed to today. Now in Genesis it says that there were giants in the land. Now the term giant is relative to the person using it. For example: A person that is only 3ft tall could look at me being that I'm 6'3 and say I'm a giant. Now that I've set that up finally here's my question. Were standard humans taller than they are now thus making the Nephilim even larger? That's what I'm coming to think based on what those scientists managed to concoct. If a fish put into a controlled environment mimicking the atmosphere of the pre-flood era grew to over double its normal size what would be different about people. Now please know that I understand that the reason for the giants was because of the sons of god getting with women and that the giants were their freak offspring. I was simply curious if you thought possibly humans were bigger back then which would have made the giants even more monstrously huge. If you have any scripture to back up or refute my statement please let me know. I'm very interested to hear your thoughts, opinions, or facts.

Tsiyon Answer - Were humans taller before the Flood
It's great to hear from you. Thanks for your excellent question.

It's very possible that humans were generally bigger before the Flood. So far as I know though, the Bible doesn't directly tell us that, so I have no verse I could show you about it one way or the other.

Here are some interesting Youtube videos about man and dinosaurs living together. These show human tracks and dino tracks together before the Flood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXDBX99qePA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmC4dwCcsUs&feature=related

When you watch these videos you will see that some of the human footprints and hand-prints appear to be about the same size as those of people today. However, there are also some that are larger. It appears from that evidence that before the Flood there were some people about our size and some who were quite a bit larger as well. In other words, the range of size, so far as I know, varied from what you would expect of a normal 6 foot man to men larger than today's tallest basketball players. This makes sense to me since there is a varying range of size today from very small people - some under 5' tall - to very tall people, up to 7' tall. It is likely there was a range of height before the Flood as well, which was generally larger than the range of humans today, but with overlap in size with modern man. Be aware that this is just my best guess based on the tracks I've seen, and that I am not an expert in fossil evidence.

Deuteronomy 3:11 indicates that some post Flood Nephilim may have been as large is 15' tall. If we assume that the atmospheric conditions before the Flood made for larger growth generally, then it is conceivable that the antediluvian Nephilim could have been much bigger as well, maybe even twice as big before the Flood. Surely, these huge and nasty creatures fully qualify as monsters!

From Eliyahu

Our last program, Kosmokratoras Rule 70 Nations presented what was new information for many of our listeners. That program offered details about the nature and origins of the invisible world rulers in the heavenly places, that the Scriptures warn us against. To paraphrase one brother in our last Partner Meeting, 'you need to understand what you are fighting against to fight the battle.' That's right, and that is the very reason we have been doing this series of programs on the Mystery of Rebellion - so that we can all grasp the nature of the evil that is rising up here in these last days - so that we can effectively fight against it. As the apostles made clear, we need to be aware of the nature and tactics of the enemy. For example, Peter said this:

Be sober and self-controlled. Be watchful. Your adversary the devil, walks around like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. 1 Peter 5:8

A battle royal between lions is heating up. On the one side we have the devil, like a lion, seeking to devour the elect. On the other we have the Lion of Judah, Y'shua Messiah, in whom is everything we need to prevail over the devil. The big question though, is; will we fight the battle or passively ignore it? Yes, we must be warriors.  As Peter said:

Withstand him (the devil) steadfast in your faith. 1 Peter 5:9

This is where many fail, for a variety of reasons. Many today don't even believe that the devil is real. After our last program some of our listeners voiced concern over this. "How do I get the point across to my uncle Joe that the unseen evil powers are real TODAY? What evidence is there that a modern person can accept?" We hear you, so we want to answer that before we move on in our series. There is no sense in re-inventing the wheel either. We have a powerful program addressing this from a few years ago that we are re-airing this week. You will be encouraged and informed by listening to it yourself - but it is also as good a message as you will ever find on the subject to share with skeptical friends and loved ones. War Against The Devil is real, and we need to actively fight the battle every day.

Blessings and Shalom,

Eliyahu ben David
www.tsiyon.org